Good PIDS to log for your tuner...

I have been asked this alot and here is breakdown on what I like to see as far as pids go in order to properly adjust a calibration.
I split it up in the two different groups for 05-06 and then 07-up and they are grouped by the groups they are listed in Predator/Trinty and Dataviewer.
Dashboards are attached for Dataviewer as well.

2005-2006 PIDS

EPDSS
RPM
rpm
Foundation Inputs
MPH
mph
Charge Temperature
ACT
F
Coolant Temperature
ECT
F
Desired Fuel Air
OPEN LOOP FA
FAR
Fuel Flows
1/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Short Term ADAP
%
1/1 Long Term ADAP
%
2/1 Long Term ADAP
%
BARO
kPa
PRATIO
PRatio
Injector Control
TOTAL WORKING PW CYL1
us
Knock Control
KNK LT RETARD
deg
KNK ST RETARD
deg
Spark
ACTUAL SPK CYL1
deg
BASE SPK
deg
MAP
SENSED MAP
kPa
MAP TO USE
kPa
READ MAP KPA
kPa
Miscellaneous
RAW TPS1
V
RAW TPS2
V


2007-up PIDS


Igntion
Base Spark
Deg
Actual Spark Cyl 1
Deg
Intake
Intake Air Temp Deg
F
Manifold Air Pressure
kPa
Barometric Pressure
in Hg
Injector Pulse Width Cylinder 1
us
Fuel
REQD FUEL CHARGE CYL1
mg/charge
Miscellaneous
1/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Long Term ADAP
%
1/1 Long Term ADAP
%
DESIRED FA CYL1
FAR
OPEN LOOP FA
FAR
READ MAP KPA
kPa
P-Ratio MAP/BARO
PRatio
Misfire
KNK LT RETARD
deg
KNK ST RETARD
Deg
Performance
Vehicle Speed
mph
Engine Speed
rpm
Read Engine RPM
rpm
Throttle
Throttle Position Sensor Percent
%
Accelerator Pedal Position
%
Throttle Blade Position
%

[mikel]

Nice...

Can you post the Dashboard, at least the 07-up one, Unzipped? WinZip is acting up on my laptop.

Actually the whole damn computer is acting up. God damn Trojans!

EDIT: Forget it, I got it on my desktop. Didn't realize you couldn't upload a dsh file as an attachment. Any way to upload the a layout to the Trinity so I don't have to sit in the truck and make one?

[06MonteSS]

there's no way to import/export gauge layouts for the trinity yet...

but I hear there's an update coming for one of the apps that will let us do it...

Mike_Levy wrote:

Any way to upload the a layout to the Trinity so I don't have to sit in the truck and make one?

I would like to do this also? any news yet?

[mikel]

I just added .dsh as an allowed extension

I'll be installing a CAI today. I know the predator has a cai tune, I'll upload that.

If I install a Corsa Sport exhaust, do I need to log data and send it to you to get a further tune? Which PID's to log?
2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 6.1 Hemi
Predator U7135, v.9r27


Thanks

HeadGasket wrote:

Mike_Levy wrote:

Any way to upload the a layout to the Trinity so I don't have to sit in the truck and make one?

I would like to do this also? any news yet?

I would also like to know how to do this?
Craig

Chevsux wrote:

HeadGasket wrote:

Mike_Levy wrote:

Any way to upload the a layout to the Trinity so I don't have to sit in the truck and make one?

I would like to do this also? any news yet?

I would also like to know how to do this?
Craig

Been available since July I guess. Just saw it today myself.

http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?na ... ic&t=24622

good post!!! +1)))

johan wrote:

Fuel
REQD FUEL CHARGE CYL1
mg/charge

Any ideas as to why this might not show up on an '07 Charger R/T, 5.7L?

I did look through every section and couldn't find this one to log. All of the others were present, I made a custom layout and have been logging but am missing that PID!

I'm running latest update / 91 oct perf tune (presently not modified).

Thanks

johan wrote:

I have been asked this alot and here is breakdown on what I like to see as far as pids go in order to properly adjust a calibration.
I split it up in the two different groups for 05-06 and then 07-up and they are grouped by the groups they are listed in Predator/Trinty and Dataviewer.
Dashboards are attached for Dataviewer as well.

2005-2006 PIDS

EPDSS
RPM
rpm
Foundation Inputs
MPH
mph
Charge Temperature
ACT
F
Coolant Temperature
ECT
F
Desired Fuel Air
OPEN LOOP FA
FAR
Fuel Flows
1/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Short Term ADAP
%
1/1 Long Term ADAP
%
2/1 Long Term ADAP
%
BARO
kPa
PRATIO
PRatio
Injector Control
TOTAL WORKING PW CYL1
us
Knock Control
KNK LT RETARD
deg
KNK ST RETARD
deg
Spark
ACTUAL SPK CYL1
deg
BASE SPK
deg
MAP
SENSED MAP
kPa
MAP TO USE
kPa
READ MAP KPA
kPa
Miscellaneous
RAW TPS1
V
RAW TPS2
V


2007-up PIDS


Igntion
Base Spark
Deg
Actual Spark Cyl 1
Deg
Intake
Intake Air Temp Deg
F
Manifold Air Pressure
kPa
Barometric Pressure
in Hg
Injector Pulse Width Cylinder 1
us
Fuel
REQD FUEL CHARGE CYL1
mg/charge
Miscellaneous
1/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Long Term ADAP
%
1/1 Long Term ADAP
%
DESIRED FA CYL1
FAR
OPEN LOOP FA
FAR
READ MAP KPA
kPa
P-Ratio MAP/BARO
PRatio
Misfire
KNK LT RETARD
deg
KNK ST RETARD
Deg
Performance
Vehicle Speed
mph
Engine Speed
rpm
Read Engine RPM
rpm
Throttle
Throttle Position Sensor Percent
%
Accelerator Pedal Position
%
Throttle Blade Position
%

I know this is a beginner question, but .... can I plug my Trinity into my pc and set it up to log these pid's, then take the Trinity to my car, plug it in to the obd and it will all be there to start logging ?

I've never done much logging at all, so in this respect I'm a newbie.

You know what "I" always say..... "You Guys Are The Best" !

Thanks all

OK... maybe it is too early and I have not had my second cup of coffee, but I can't figure out if and how we can load a .dsh file up to the Trinity to get the gauges outlined in the first post by Johan.

Can someone please tell me if we can upload?
If we can, a simple instruction on how would be appreciated.

Thanks!

nhdave wrote:

Chevsux wrote:

HeadGasket wrote:

Mike_Levy wrote:

Any way to upload the a layout to the Trinity so I don't have to sit in the truck and make one?

I would like to do this also? any news yet?

I would also like to know how to do this?
Craig

Been available since July I guess. Just saw it today myself.

http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?na ... ic&t=24622

[mikel]

dash files are for dataviewer ;0

Is there available a more descriptive definition of the PIDs?
i.e
KNK LT RETARD deg = Knock Long Term Retard, degrees ?
and if LT does stand for Long Term, what does Long Term mean?

I have a 2009 Dodge Challenger, FWIW (For What Its Worth)